Gifted (Q & A)


Questions:

(1:27) Is tongues, with occupancy of interpretation, just as important as prophecy?

There are some hints in scripture that point to a "higher/greater gifts"; so no, prophecy seems to be more important in a corporate gathering.

1 Corinthians 14:5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up.

1 Corinthians 12:28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues.

31 But earnestly desire the higher gifts. And I will show you a still more excellent way.

1 Corinthians 13:13 So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

(7:54) Do you believe in the doctrine that speaking in tongues is the initial evidence of being filled with the Holy Spirit? Is speaking in tongues necessary to be a Christian?

No. We see in Acts that many people who became Christians immediately spoke in tongues (Acts 2:4; 10:46; 19:6). But we do not believe this is not a prescription to the process of salvation.

1 Corinthians 14:5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up.

1 Corinthians 12:29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But earnestly desire the higher gifts. And I will show you a still more excellent way.

The bible is very clear about how to become a Christian (Romans 10:9) and what the sign of salvation looks like afterwards (Galatians 5:22-23). If tongues were necessary, we believe we’d see it clearer in scripture as a requirement.

(14:32) Do you believe the gift of prophecy includes new revelations different from established biblical doctrine?

No. We believe New Testament prophecy is revelation from God, but not to establish new biblical doctrine for The Church--universally. The doctrines we have are already prescribed in the canon of scripture.

2 Peter 1:19 And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, 20 knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. 21 For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

Examples in the New Testament show that the gift of prophecy was spontaneous proclamation of a revelation that can either edify the church, bring conviction of sin, and/or provide present and future insight. Though there may not be

(22:11) Is the gift of tongues a known language or heavenly language?

Tongues (or glossolalia) are identified by many as the supernatural utterance of foreign human languages (Acts 2:4,6); others contend that it includes speaking an angelic language (1 Corinthians 13:1) or some other verbal expression requiring interpretation (1 Corinthians 14).

Pastor Harrison and Evan answer yes to both. Pastor Jarrod answered heavenly language.

(30:13) Why do you think the gift of tongues and prophecy isn’t talked about in the modern church like it was in the old church?

There are many churches who still talk about spiritual gifts, like tongues and prophecy. You probably wouldn't hear as much about the gifts in a cessationist church or contemporary modeled church. This may be because it can be a divisive topic, if not taught with grace.

Here are some convictions we had in desiring to teach this series:

1) Paul says in 1 Corinthians 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be uninformed.

2) Paul commands in 1 Corinthians 14:1 Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy.

We believe it is necessary to teach on spiritual gifts with an end goal to be faithful to scripture, glorify God, and edify the Body.

(35:02) Explain the women being silent in church 1 Corinthians 14:34-35.

1 Corinthians 14:34 the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. 35 If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

Acts 2:17 “‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; 18 even on my male servants and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy. (Cf. Joel 2)

Acts 21:9 He [Philip the evangelist] had four unmarried daughters, who prophesied.

1 Corinthians 11:5 …wife who prays or prophesies…

This must not be an absolute command for women to remain silent at all times in all services. The prohibition must be limited in some way by the context since Paul speaks of women prophesying in the church.

Paul instructs several people/groups to “be quiet” at certain times and under certain conditions: • 1 Corinthians 14:27 If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. 28 But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God. • 1 Corinthians 14:29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. 30 If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent.

Apparently, some women were speaking out in a way that did not acknowledge the spiritual authority of either their husbands or church leaders. Women in this culture were not formally educated. Some also believe that men and women sat on separate sides in a gathering. Meaning that if a wife got up and started asking questions to her husband in service across the congregation, it cause a great distraction.

(44:04) It seems clear that tongues, interpretation, and prophecy spoken about in 1 Corinthians 14 are all gifts that are meant to be used in the corporate church body setting. In light of this, how do you recommend someone who feels led to prophesy or speak in tongues in the church service should handle this without offending the cessationists who attend 1116? What are some ways that these gifts can be developed or used in the church body that would keep people united?

1 Corinthians 14:26 What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. 39 So, my brothers, earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. 40 But all things should be done decently and in order.

1 Corinthians 10:23 “All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up.

Our desire to have an orderly gathering, but still be lead by the Holy Spirit in all that we do. It will take a lot of grace from those who desire to pursue spiritual gifts and those who do not. We are open to allow others to use these gifts in service as long as they follow the rules given in scripture, glorify God, and edify the Body. We also believe that gifts, like prophecy, happen regularly in a service setting, though some may not recognize it.

Questions Not Answered Live:

What scriptures can you use to test prophecy ( to truly know that what they are saying is from God) ?

The best way to test prophecy is to know and study the scriptures. The first question to ask when a prophecy is given is, "Is this in harmony with the Bible?"

Acts 17:11 Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.

Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

1 Corinthians 12:3 Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says “Jesus is accursed!” and no one can say “Jesus is Lord” except in the Holy Spirit.

1 John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.

1 Thessalonians 5:20 Do not despise prophecies, 21 but test everything; hold fast what is good.

Matthew 7:15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will recognize them by their fruits.

Can the gift of speaking of tongues be taught?

No.

1 Corinthians 12:11 All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above

Do you believe a private prayer language (intelligible or not) glorifies God or edifies the body? If so, how? There are four primary Scripture passages that are cited as evidence for praying in tongues: Romans 8:26; 1 Corinthians 14:4-17; Ephesians 6:18; and Jude verse 20.

Matthew 6:5 “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. 6 But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. 7 “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words.

A prayer language should not be done for self glory or to distract the body from what's going on corporately. Individual edification is ok, when you're spending time with God alone; but when we gather together the focus is to edify the Body

What are some of the pros and cons leaning Charismatic--believing in spiritual gifts? J.I. Packer, a theologian in the low-church Anglican and Calvinist traditions, has some helpful observations about Charismatics.

Positives: Spirit-Empowered Living, Emotions are good and from God / Self-Control, Prayerfulness, Missionary Zeal, Communal Love, Joyfulness

Negatives: Elitism (if you don't use spiritual gifts you're a lesser Christian), Sectarianism (limit themselves to following only other charismatics--books, causes, teachings), Anti-intellectualism (focused more on emotion instead getting in the word to study), Chrismania (judging believers by the impressiveness of their gift instead of 1 Corinthians 13 love), , Health and wealth gospel, Demon Obsession

Are there examples in church history of spiritual gifts being used past the Apostolic age?

Ignatius – personally gave words of prophecy Justin Martyr – said it is possible now to see the church use gifts Irenaeus – said others still heal the sick by laying hands on them…even the dead have been raised Tertullian – seven volume work on the movement of the Holy Spirit. Said we have attained the gift of the prophetic and tongues. He also spoke out many times of people in the church faking spiritual gifts. Origen – said Traces of those signs and wonders are still preserved among those who regulate their lives by the teachings of the Gospel.” The Jews no longer have prophets or miracles. Yet, traces of those things are still found among Christians to a considerable extent. Some of those miracles are more remarkable than any that existed among the Jews. I have witnessed these myself.” Augustine – said I can’t record all the miracles that I know John Wesley – said He who worketh as He will, may, with your good leave, give the gift of tongues, where he gives no other; and may see abundant reasons so to do, whether you and I see them or not."

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